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wendelah1 ([personal profile] wendelah1) wrote in [community profile] xf_book_club2010-04-06 12:01 pm
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Story 110: "Gutless" by Magdeleine

Yep, this is the one with the talking parrot, a pretty good casefile, and Scully having "Mulder Awareness Days." The author refers to the latter as Uber-UST in her summary. I think the term "parrotfic," not to be confused with [livejournal.com profile] parrotfic, might have originated here. "I mean why read babyfic when you can read parrotfic, right?" Truer words were never spoken, er, written, Autumn. There is a talking parrot in a Syntax6 story that I bet is a little shout-out to "Gutless." At least, I think it is a parrot.

If you don't find this to your taste, try "Bonemeal," which is a very different kind of story. You can find it on her author's page at Gossamer, along with "Gutless" broken into smaller bites. "Bonemeal" deserves its own discussion, but it's so short, I doubt we'll ever do it formally. If anyone knows if this writer changed fandoms, has a different email address, and is perchance still around somewhere, please let us know. Thanks to an anonymouse, you can go leave Magdeleine comments on her story at Archive of Our Own. You can read her fic for The Office there, too.

This story was suggested by [livejournal.com profile] amyhit as being one that would generate discussion. I guess it's time to read it and find out.

"Gutless"

Upcoming attractions: "Fathoms Five" by Penumbra, "Melancholia" by Jeylan, and "This House is Burning" by Tesla. If you don't like those, you can always go post your own suggestions at the nominations post.

Great plot, great timing

[identity profile] counterphobe.livejournal.com 2010-04-10 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Gutless is a casefile that is also an X-File, and I'd appreciate it for that alone. Clues are revealed at appropriate intervals to let the plot unfold, and there are valid plot rationales when knowledge is delayed. (Think how many times on the TV show the informant tells Mulder just enough to get him through the next scene. Deep Throat, for example, doles out his tips only so that the show can last an hour.)

I didn't see the ending coming, even though it made perfect sense. Thank you, Magdeleine.

I like UST, and I think you can see it in the program itself, but then again, I am an unrepentant fangirl. (I think you can see many things in the actors' portrayals, and I suspect that was the result of the last-minute writing, the [sometimes] bad writing, and the fact that special effects were added later. Those actors learned to be ambiguous and noncommittal. Enigmatic, if you prefer.)

To my taste, the UST was overdone. I'm on board with the Mulder Awareness Days and I like that the tension built, but I would have liked it more if it had been toned down. I was surprised when Mulder identified flu rather than menses, but I think I'm grateful. I'm glad that Mulder had his own UST problem, and I liked the ending.

There was a redundancy in the language and in some descriptions. Like Wendelah, I would love to see it filmed. I think some of the actions would have been fine on screen, even though the phrases themselves became tiresome. Some of the metaphors were wonderful, but some were not, and there were too many.

I feel a little hesitant to offer these criticisms because I really liked the story. I'm glad I got to read it, flawed or not. Again, thanks to Magdeleine for writing and posting.
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I HAVE A QUESTION

[identity profile] amyhit.livejournal.com 2010-04-10 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm on board with the Mulder Awareness Days and I like that the tension built, but I would have liked it more if it had been toned down.

you know, this fic was one of the first XF fics i ever read, and at that time i remember feeling exactly this. my tolerance for UST, which was always high, has become significantly more so. but i definitely remember feeling (and thinking) that there was a point fairly early on in this fic where the UST just blitzed out upon first read.

I was surprised when Mulder identified flu rather than menses, but I think I'm grateful.

me too. i mean, i guess it's kind of unrealistic, considering that her 'symptoms' fit menses much more than they fit flu, but still, i was relieved. it always feels kind of cheap to me when a writer brings a character's biorhythms into it. and a little bit chauvenistic of the character, too.

I'm glad that Mulder had his own UST problem, and I liked the ending.

yes, yes, yes - i heartily agree. in fact, had mulder not had his own UST problems i doubt i would've been able to enjoy this fic in the long run. because while the UST makes it easy to forget, ultimately scully is being victimized here, and she spends the entire fic literally suffering. it's hot suffering (for the reader), but it's no less suffering. if magdeleine hadn't done something to acknowledge the 'horror' aspect of the plot, and to put scully and mulder back on more even footing with each other i think i would have felt like her fic was too brazen and lacked regard for scully.

additionally, I'VE BEEN WONDERING: what are people's thoughts about the climactic scene (the fight/fuck scene)? did it squick them out? was it hot? or both? i have my own opinions and impressions, naturally, but ever since i read this fic i've really wanted to hear what other people think.

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[identity profile] counterphobe.livejournal.com 2010-04-11 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
additionally, I'VE BEEN WONDERING: what are people's thoughts about the climactic scene (the fight/fuck scene)? did it squick them out? was it hot? or both? i have my own opinions and impressions, naturally, but ever since i read this fic i've really wanted to hear what other people think.

I didn't go all the way to squicking me, but I didn't like it. I would have preferred something that didn't draw blood.

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[identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com 2016-06-05 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
knife play? what did i miss while reading??

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[identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com 2016-06-05 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I read it at AO3, so that would explain that for sure. Thanks for responding :)

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[identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com 2016-06-05 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
read it. well then, THAT was very very different. interesting but bizarre and metaphorical i suppose, but certainly different, and helped the story conclude for sure.

Re: I HAVE A QUESTION

[identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com 2016-06-06 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
DEFINITELY stronger. And oddly, I kind of like the whole strange knife fight thing. Metaphorically anyways, and very true to the bizarre way that dreams often seem to work. Wasn't totally sold on all aspects of this fic, but I did like the casefile and the story overall. Glad I asked too!