The weird thing is the sex itself is really pretty hot, (although the attitudes behind it are not), despite that the characters admittedly don't seem like themselves.
yes, it is weird. and i do agree, it is pretty hot. presuming i can block out how much i don't like these characterizations and their attitudes, of course. i'll have to reread A Bitter Taste on the Tongue. i remember thinking it was deliciously disturbing when i read it, but for some reason it didn't leave a lasting impression.
It definitely crosses the line into somewhat coercive sex, especially once the handcuffs come out.
coercive sex in (fan)fiction is such a fascinating area, as i see it. i'm the sort of person who has a definite kink for a very specific kind of coercive sex. i suspect that i will find Jane's fic rather suits my tastes. basically both the characters and the writer have to be very clear on the fact that it's coercive - power lines are being stuggled with here and everybody knows it. if a power struggle is happening and both characters are "into" the struggle, absolutely, wow, it can really sizzle. unfortunately, a lot of coercive sex doesn't see itself as coercive sex (my my, how art does immitate life). and as soon as a scene (particularly a first-time scene) becomes "i want this and you don't and i'm trying to convince you that you do want it the way i want it," that's basically repulsive (to me). i definitely got hints of that repulsive kind of coercive in Melancholia, though nothing really substantial in this case.
This fic makes me think that you will always be alone because people cannot understand each-other at all, and only connect but fleetingly.
me too, hlbr, me too. and i really dislike that. if i want to get that kind of depressing realism in which people's relationships are shoddy and the characters would probably be better off alone, then i'll read classic literature. Anna Karenina does the trick nicely. when i read about mulder and scully, however, i want to see them as people who are stronger and whose lives are genuinely better (on the whole, at least) when they're together.
Re: Hi, I'm Kind of Offended - 2/2
yes, it is weird. and i do agree, it is pretty hot. presuming i can block out how much i don't like these characterizations and their attitudes, of course. i'll have to reread A Bitter Taste on the Tongue. i remember thinking it was deliciously disturbing when i read it, but for some reason it didn't leave a lasting impression.
It definitely crosses the line into somewhat coercive sex, especially once the handcuffs come out.
coercive sex in (fan)fiction is such a fascinating area, as i see it. i'm the sort of person who has a definite kink for a very specific kind of coercive sex. i suspect that i will find Jane's fic rather suits my tastes. basically both the characters and the writer have to be very clear on the fact that it's coercive - power lines are being stuggled with here and everybody knows it. if a power struggle is happening and both characters are "into" the struggle, absolutely, wow, it can really sizzle. unfortunately, a lot of coercive sex doesn't see itself as coercive sex (my my, how art does immitate life). and as soon as a scene (particularly a first-time scene) becomes "i want this and you don't and i'm trying to convince you that you do want it the way i want it," that's basically repulsive (to me). i definitely got hints of that repulsive kind of coercive in Melancholia, though nothing really substantial in this case.
This fic makes me think that you will always be alone because people cannot understand each-other at all, and only connect but fleetingly.
me too,