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ext_20969 ([identity profile] amyhit.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] xf_book_club2011-07-06 06:54 pm

Story 167: "Waiting" by Kipler

Kipler did most of her fic writing between 1995 and 1997, placing her solidly among the early era X-Files fanfic writers, though she didn't write Strangers and the Strange Dead - arguably her most widely recced story - until 2000.

Waiting was written, and is set, in the summer of 1997, after Gethsemane. Following the cryptic and devastating event of Mulder's evident demise, Scully inadvertently happens upon a casefile, and finds herself drawn into its eerie mystery while she bides time in and out of hospital rooms, waiting for her own imminent death to claim her. For such a small fic, there's a lot to this one. Kipler's writing is spare, intelligent, and deeply but subtly poetic - very in tune with the nuances of tension and emotion underlying surface reality.

I first read this fic about a year ago, and it left me feeling a curious combination of awestruck, dazed, a little bit sick with grief, and a little bit giddy with pleasure. But we've covered three of Kipler's fics already so I was hesitant to post Waiting for my own gratification alone. When I saw that [livejournal.com profile] coldthermistor had recced it, I could've hugged her.


Waiting by Kipler

I'm not sure if this Waybacked link will work. If not then you'll have to head over to where it's posted on Gossamer to read it. You know the drill, just c/p the url into a new window.

[identity profile] write-out.livejournal.com 2011-07-07 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been such a slackass here lately and I know I've missed some good discussion that I need to catch up on.

For all of the fic I've read, I've surprisingly (to me) not read anything by Kipler, so I started with Strangers and the Strange Dead even though that's not the current story. Wow...that ending hit me sort of like the twist in The Other Man by Jess Mabe. Was that discussed here? I will have to read what you all said at the time.

So, Waiting? I LOVE this. I'm still processing it, so forgive this shallow comment. I'll write more once my thoughts settle down some. I just didn't want to let another story pass by without participating, so consider this a placeholder and a reminder to myself that I need to come back.

[identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com 2011-07-09 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
"Strangers and the Strange Dead" is in my top five fanfics of all time :). I wasn't here to discuss it when it was posted (although I remember participating in some indepth discussion on--I think? the Glass Onion list, years ago). It's such a great story.

[identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com 2011-07-09 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
"Waiting" is amazing. I love the way Kipler writes--clear and visual and yet poetic. There's a truthfulness to the emotion, too, that I think is rare. You can really feel what the characters are feeling, and it doesn't feel forced or uncomfortable.

"Waiting" covers some pretty ambitious themes of death and dying. I usually find stories like this hard to read, but there's a real journey here; it's not just written to make readers sad. It's really thoughtful and beautiful.

And I am pretty picky about characterizing Scully. I think she is just perfect here--puzzling out the medical mystery and working with the kids (like in her sub-storyline in I Want To Believe (obviously written years after "Waiting")). I love her voice coming through in the story. Scully's inner voice is precise and poetic (see her journal entries), just the way Kipler writes her.

[identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com 2011-07-13 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I had assumed that Scully dies at the end, and that Mulder appearing is a hallucination or him coming to lead her into an afterlife. I thought this because in the scene before last, she refers to dreaming out of existence, and becoming more transparent--essentially leaving "this" world behind.

I have a pretty limited imagination, though--it hadn't occurred to me that Mulder might actually be alive.

One line at the end I wondered about was:

I'm surprised that it's Mulder, that he has waited at the door, that he is dressed in clothes I have never seen.

I thought the reference to his clothes was interesting--this leads the thought, of course, that Scully knows every item of clothing he owns :). But why would she note that he's wearing different clothes? I wondered if it could be a biblical allegory--that having died, he's been reclothed by God.

[identity profile] write-out.livejournal.com 2011-07-17 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I think you two pretty much covered it. I loved Waiting so much but am having a hard time articulating just what it is that drew me in.

I read it to mean that Mulder is alive in the end (I'm a sucker for a happy ending, even if I have to create my own where none truly exists), but [livejournal.com profile] infinitlight's idea that they are both dead is very intriguing and made me go back and reread the story. I can see that, but I chose to read it that Mulder is alive and has come back to Scully. See? Sucker.

Thanks for reccing this one, though- it's so good to have 'new' authors to check out.
wendelah1: ("I think you're wrong about that Scully")

[personal profile] wendelah1 2011-07-18 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked this story, though maybe not as much as the other readers here. I re-watched Gethsemane and tried to read the fic with an empty mindset, as though I hadn't seen Redux. So I just read it as an attempt to fill in the blank space left by the summer hiatus. But I never was able to believe Mulder was dead. I just thought she was imagining him, sitting there talking to her, not that he was really there as a spirit. The story with the twins was okay, too, but didn't grab me the way it did some people here. I couldn't make it line up with the rest of the story. The twins are telepathically communicating. Were Mulder and Scully supposed to be doing that, too?

It was hard for me to imagine Scully believing Mulder was dead, maybe because the last time he "died," she told his mother that he was okay, she dreamed that he was alive. She "just knew." That made it harder for me to go with the story's basic premise.

But it was well-written. And I probably would have liked it much more back in the day.

I haven't much else to contribute here so I guess I'd better post the next fic.
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[personal profile] wendelah1 2011-07-19 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I know that the viewers probably believed Scully believed he was dead. I just couldn't believe she believed it. I'm not sure I'd have bought into it back then, either. It doesn't fit well with who I believe the character to be. This is probably why I prefer the early seasons, too. (shrugs)

She feels a resonance with the case, elements of it stir things in her that begin to take shape, and that's the point.

I guess the problem then is nothing much about it resonated with me.

[identity profile] estella-c.livejournal.com 2011-07-18 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I will be less articulate than usual. Less articulate by far, that is, than what emerges when amyhit feels inarticulate. Domestic project issues in top-level humidity.

I liked the fic very much and I did not believe that Mulder was dead. I believed that Scully imagined him, which I found moving.

The tale of the twins interdependence is a purposefully imposed miniaturization of the Mulder and Scully bond. Scully feels unreal and in a sort of death dream until Mulder returns. Then she reawakens. Even in such a state she manages to solve a human puzzle. A relationship puzzle. She is the scientist, and she is a large part of the heart.

I liked this fic very much--see paragraph one--and I wish I had the energy to think about it more deeply.

[identity profile] coldthermistor.livejournal.com 2011-07-19 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
I meant to comment but I'd forgotten back then. I think everyone's covered the key bits - one thing I do admire though is the use of time to cause a sense of dislocation and unreality. As if by blurring the passage of time, making an unclear distinction between the days, it causes a sense of unreality to arise.

[identity profile] coldthermistor.livejournal.com 2011-07-20 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
Good point, about the wealth of meaning the title can take on!

The Scully-and-the-Ruiz family scenes feeling very well-defined is rather appropriate, I felt. I'd seen the Ruiz twins as a kind of extended metaphor for her relationship with Mulder - the way the sister told her twins make each other real. That through interaction, characters in this fic become more 'real' and the Ruiz-interaction segments are when the segments become very solid - but there's always the bits when Scully's alone and...thinking up Mulder? And then that's a whole different ballgame, because there's no one to *really* interact with. No more strong sense of reality. And yet at the same time, it's almost as if the girl is right. It's Scully thinking up Mulder that still anchors her here :S

[identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com 2016-06-05 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Kipler writes wonderful stuff. Subtle, well-written, interesting cases, lots of layers, not purple... In canon or AU, I really enjoy all her stuff and hadn't read this one (maybe its not on AO3?) so thanks for recommending!