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Yep, this is the one with the talking parrot, a pretty good casefile, and Scully having "Mulder Awareness Days." The author refers to the latter as Uber-UST in her summary. I think the term "parrotfic," not to be confused with [livejournal.com profile] parrotfic, might have originated here. "I mean why read babyfic when you can read parrotfic, right?" Truer words were never spoken, er, written, Autumn. There is a talking parrot in a Syntax6 story that I bet is a little shout-out to "Gutless." At least, I think it is a parrot.

If you don't find this to your taste, try "Bonemeal," which is a very different kind of story. You can find it on her author's page at Gossamer, along with "Gutless" broken into smaller bites. "Bonemeal" deserves its own discussion, but it's so short, I doubt we'll ever do it formally. If anyone knows if this writer changed fandoms, has a different email address, and is perchance still around somewhere, please let us know. Thanks to an anonymouse, you can go leave Magdeleine comments on her story at Archive of Our Own. You can read her fic for The Office there, too.

This story was suggested by [livejournal.com profile] amyhit as being one that would generate discussion. I guess it's time to read it and find out.

"Gutless"

Upcoming attractions: "Fathoms Five" by Penumbra, "Melancholia" by Jeylan, and "This House is Burning" by Tesla. If you don't like those, you can always go post your own suggestions at the nominations post.

just in case anyone is as big a geek as i am...

Date: 2010-04-07 01:56 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] amyhit.livejournal.com
I just thought I'd mention that Magdeleine's website is here (http://web.archive.org/web/20010407202114/http://shannono.net/theden/magdeleine.html). It's a really simple little website, but it has a couple of her fics that aren't posted to Gossamer, as well as having Gutless in seventeen much smaller parts, in case that type of approach appeals to anyone.

also, i don't know if anyone else is geekish enough to find little fandom quirks like the nicknaming of fanfic as amusing as i do, but from what I can tell, Gutless was given the nickname 'parrotfic' before it was posted - possibly by one of its many betas. in the author's notes for Bonemeal, Magdeleine says "For those of you who are wondering, yes, I'm almost done with the parrotfic, hereafter to be known as Gutless." but in the notes for Black and White and grey All Over she is still referring to it by the title "Mind over Matter", which does appear on the Gutless cover art in the caption, "because all you have to do is put mind over matter."

and now back to the previously scheduled discussion of the actual writing. *g*

**GRINS**

Date: 2010-04-07 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leiliaxf.livejournal.com
oh yeah--I was on a lot of the AIM conversations back in the day when she was writing this (there was a whole group of us, writers and betas and just friends. We'd chat for hours sometimes). "Parrotfic" was the working title, as it were; we used to tease her constantly about writing M/S smut and try and push her over the edge into full-blown sex, and she resisted resisted resisted :) . I wish I'd kept screencaps of the conversations--they were HYSTERICAL.

I feel so old now..."I was THERE! Back in the day..." *g*

::cough::

Date: 2010-04-08 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
http://archiveofourown.org/users/obsession_inc/pseuds/Magdeleine

Date: 2010-04-09 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elizabethannfic.livejournal.com
I suppose I'm in the minority here, but I thought the UST went a little too far. I like UST. In many case I like it better than MSR. However, Scully acting like an animal both in thought and action--clawing at the air or whatever it is she does in the car at one point--seems to me to be too much. The case was interesting. The writing was well done. They seemed generally in character. I enjoyed the fic. At some point--for me--the UST crosses over into something repetitive and over the top. I did like that they don't jump in bed at the end.

Date: 2010-04-09 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elizabethannfic.livejournal.com
As to Scully seeming mostly annoyed: This is my problem with fics that present Scully as hopelessly and secretly in love or lust with Mulder. I can't buy it. Mulder perhaps might be from an earlier stage in the show, but not Scully. I know others disagree, but that is probably why this UST didn't ring true for me, since it focused so heavily on Scully.

The parrot is funny. The juxtaposition of brutality and lust is not sexy. The repetitive electrical touch of Mulder's hand is cliche and was a part of nearly every chapter's internal monologues. I've used it myself, I'm sure, but they began to stand out on their own as stock phrases.

Date: 2010-04-10 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estella-c.livejournal.com
Yep, I'm of the "over the top" school of thought. Which might have been predicted. I so often say the same things about fics that disagree with me: too long, too much describing of emotional states, too purple. All of which apply here.

By "purple," I refer too "Relief hit like a tsunami, and she sagged against the door in its wake." This because a door stuck and Scully wouldn't have to face Mulder in a sweaty nighty. Multiply that by thousands of inappropriate metaphors.

I remember enjoying Gutless back in the day, and I kind of envy the group enthusiasm that swept the fans. But the reread was tiring. Whatever the plot rationale, this felt a lot closer to Scullytorture than UST, and I'm not into that.

In my experience, in real life, mutual physical attraction is pretty quickly recognized. Poor Fox Mulder: psychologist, investigator, profiler, clueless. That moment when he observes Scully trying not to tear his clothes off and diagnoses the flu is a pretty good joke. But Wendy, I think that a filmed version would get more and different laughs than intended.

Magdeleine is capable of excellent writing. Bonemeal is a knockout. And I still like the parrot (how not?) and the concept of "Mulder Awareness Day." I'd welcome their use in a lighter context, the happier context they seemed to promise.

Great plot, great timing

Date: 2010-04-10 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] counterphobe.livejournal.com
Gutless is a casefile that is also an X-File, and I'd appreciate it for that alone. Clues are revealed at appropriate intervals to let the plot unfold, and there are valid plot rationales when knowledge is delayed. (Think how many times on the TV show the informant tells Mulder just enough to get him through the next scene. Deep Throat, for example, doles out his tips only so that the show can last an hour.)

I didn't see the ending coming, even though it made perfect sense. Thank you, Magdeleine.

I like UST, and I think you can see it in the program itself, but then again, I am an unrepentant fangirl. (I think you can see many things in the actors' portrayals, and I suspect that was the result of the last-minute writing, the [sometimes] bad writing, and the fact that special effects were added later. Those actors learned to be ambiguous and noncommittal. Enigmatic, if you prefer.)

To my taste, the UST was overdone. I'm on board with the Mulder Awareness Days and I like that the tension built, but I would have liked it more if it had been toned down. I was surprised when Mulder identified flu rather than menses, but I think I'm grateful. I'm glad that Mulder had his own UST problem, and I liked the ending.

There was a redundancy in the language and in some descriptions. Like Wendelah, I would love to see it filmed. I think some of the actions would have been fine on screen, even though the phrases themselves became tiresome. Some of the metaphors were wonderful, but some were not, and there were too many.

I feel a little hesitant to offer these criticisms because I really liked the story. I'm glad I got to read it, flawed or not. Again, thanks to Magdeleine for writing and posting.

Date: 2016-11-10 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com
Read this one again and enjoyed it more in the second reading. It really is well constructed and I enjoyed so much of it all around. The uber UST annoyed me the first time around but this time I understood the underlying structures and found it much better. A much needed read for a day like today.

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