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This week's story, nominated by [livejournal.com profile] finisterre, is "Five Years and One Night" by Shalimar. This is from the author's website:

"This story was originally a short post-Kitsunegari vignette. Then, at the request of a couple people who'd read it, I started adding parts. The result was posted in 26 parts as a serial. Summer/Fall '98."

Rating: NC17 This story contains adult language and sexual situations that are inappropriate for those under seventeen years of age and may be inappropriate for some adults.

Genres: AU, MSR, Angst, Myth-arc. "This starts post "Kitsunegari" and is full of spoilers including all of US 5. It deals with the events in "Emily".

This is one of the first stories I read in The X-Files fandom, after I read everything by [livejournal.com profile] cofax7, and everything recced at [livejournal.com profile] crack_van. I remember not being able to sleep until I finished it. I can't imagine what it would have been like to read as a WIP.

Although, the rest of her site is intact, this story is not. I am linking you to her Author's Page at Gossamer, where you can find the story in three parts.

Five Years and One Night

This is a long one, and I haven't read it in a couple of years, so I will be back later with more detailed comments. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

Date: 2008-02-04 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emily-shore.livejournal.com
Voila!

http://web.archive.org/web/20060629144134/http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/alcus/five.txt

Date: 2008-02-04 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emily-shore.livejournal.com
How bizarre. I think the link is being truncated somehow. The full link will take you to a text version of the whole story.

Date: 2008-02-05 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ikielove.livejournal.com
I enjoyed this story a lot. That being said, I didn't really feel like I was reading a fanfic. I didn't actually get a lot of the Mulder/Scully vibe if that makes sense.

Date: 2008-02-06 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ikielove.livejournal.com
I don't exactly know how to explain it. While I was reading the story I just felt that I could have been reading about anyone. I sound stupid...

Maybe it's that there were a lot of character traits that I wouldn't normally associate with Mulder and Scully.


Date: 2008-02-24 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] finisterre.livejournal.com
Hello. I nominated this story because I love its slightly out of control feeling. However, I do think it's in character. It's from an extremely tight Scully point of view, six months after Mulder has, to her, inexplicably severed their partnership. Scully is hurt, furious and scared but if you contrast what she is thinking -- which seems out of character in its vehemence, turmoil and confusion -- and what she actually *says*, she's very much the Scully we see on screen.

She gives away very little to Mulder, even during the most intimate moments, until under almost intolerable emotional pressure -- at the airport when an angry Mulder wants to walk away with Liam, and then again, when she realises she can't possibly go with them because she is bugged.

The stream of consciousness narrative is at odds with the outer projection of Scully but it is that very contrast which works for me

Date: 2008-02-24 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ikielove.livejournal.com
Hi,
You know, I understand what you are saying. I don't even disagree with you, but I still feel like the story could have been about just anyone. Maybe that is a compliment to the author; the story is universal. I did enjoy reading this story very much as I am new to fanfic and had never read anything like this. Thank you for nominating it.

Date: 2008-02-10 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emily-shore.livejournal.com
Having got through about half of part one, I sympathise with the people who are complaining that Mulder and Scully seem out of character. On the other hand, I don't think it's quite OOCness that they're complaining about. It's something in the writing style, which is very flat. When I look past the prose, at Mulder and Scully themselves, I can't see anything in them to complain about. On the other hand I feel a lack of the quirky little asides and details of characterisation that the show did so well, and it kind of stops me from making an emotional connection with the characters as they are depicted here. If I were going to be really harsh I would say that I almost feel there's a sort of zombie quality to them. They behave correctly on the surface, but they don't seem right somehow. I can only blame the writing style. Apologies for criticising a story that you enjoyed so much, but I thought it would be worth trying to articulate what difficulties I had with it.

Now that I think back, I've tried to read this once before but I don't think that I got through it then either. Do you think that I ought to keep going? I'm happy to read the rest of it for the sake of the discussion but I don't think I'd do it on my own account.

Date: 2008-02-24 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] finisterre.livejournal.com
I find this story to be a bit like JK Rowling, in as much as I am not there for the glory of the writing but by god, she can tell a story. It kicks off with the quarrel in the office and it never lets up for a second until the last scene, and that too is a skill. An underrated one, but one which is more elusive.

I don't know how much XF fiction you've read but the writing here is absolutely consistent with that period of fanfiction. Karen Rasch, who was writing at the same time, also uses the very short sentences as paragraphs, very concrete descriptions rather than floweriness, snappy, short dialogue and so on. I think these are sort of the second wave of writers, who started writing about the third season and largely stopped by the seventh, and (huge generalisation alert!) many tended to stick to this punchy style. I guess you would stick early MD1016 in there, Dianora and a few others in the same category. Things changed as MustangSally and then Penumbra gained admirers, and people were more ambitious with the language they used (occasionally with horrible results)

What might improve your ability to enjoy the story -- and part of what I really like about it -- is this: check out how much Scully actually *says* versus what she's thinking. Internally she's a total mess: knackered; overwrought; hopelessly in love, and fearing that 'hopelessly' is all too accurate a description; in despair at how she has been used; and she's had two of her dearest wishes fulfilled in horrible ways -- she finally knows how far Mulder would go for her and she has her own child, and yet still it's not a happy situation.

Yet if you look at the actual dialogue, until in extremis she's the Scully we see on TV. Measured in what she says, controlled, frustratingly opaque. It's that tension between outer control v inner emotion that I love.

It's also the fact that reading this story, like reading Harry Potter, is akin to riding a bicycle down a steep hill with your hands in the air. The momentum is glorious, as is the knowledge that you're one narrative pebble away from a godawful pile-up!

Date: 2008-02-29 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emily-shore.livejournal.com
I missed this comment completely the first time around! We certainly could discuss Parabiosis (it might bring in more commenters), although I would hate for you to have to discuss something else that you had a lot of trouble with.

Date: 2008-02-29 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emily-shore.livejournal.com
You've explained the appeal of the story very well. I have to admit that I'm not a fan of JK Rowling, for exactly the same reasons--I'm not much of a plot reader, and the flatness of the writing style just doesn't carry me along sufficiently. As for the characterization, I can sort of see it, but not feel it, if you see what I mean. It isn't to say either Rowling or this author are bad writers, just that they're not my kind of writer.

It's very interesting that there are distinct genres and periods of X-Files fanfic. I'm a new fan, so I wasn't aware of any of this. Personally I fall much more into the Penumbra camp, certainly as a reader and potentially as a writer though I wouldn't want to opine on whether my style is successful or not.

Date: 2008-04-16 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] memento1.livejournal.com
I'm trying to read all the big recs here and this was next in line, after "Blood and Breath" which I didn't much care for.

It's been long enough since my first reading of it that it was new and exciting while also being overwhelmingly familiar. I would hit a line or scene that I clearly remembered reading before, but forget where it ended up. This was just as enjoyable the second time around. I adored it.

The scene where Scully breaks down on the beach just blew me away. The stream-of-consciousness writing there was really powerful and swept me up so I couldn't possibly put it down. Of course the rest has amazing glimpses of each of them as parents, and their strangled attempts at honest communication, and of course devastatingly hot sex. ;) I could easily start this one all over again, I loved it that much. Fabulous rec, here!

Date: 2008-04-16 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] memento1.livejournal.com
I think it's a personal call on "Blood and Breath". I personally don't like overwhelming angst, pain, and breakdown without a healthy dose of hope and happiness thrown in. Where they break down the characters and end in ruins with a hint of hope. It's too depressing for me. But I see why it is an impressive character study.

Date: 2008-04-16 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] memento1.livejournal.com
Oh, there was certainly plenty of that in this one! But there was also a healthy dose of good times, so it all evened out to a delicious angst-and-sex pie. *LOL* I think it helped that having read it before, I knew it didn't end in ruin.

Date: 2014-02-24 07:29 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Just Googled Shalimar and X-Files and found everyone's wonderful comments! It seems like a million years ago, but I really loved reading what everyone had to say about Five Years and One Night.

Writing a story in installments when everyone was clamoring for the next part was insane! Glad you enjoyed it.

Love,
Shalimar
mmckalcus@yahoo.com

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