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I meant to post this next story a week ago. Where has the time gone?

I debated whether or not to even post this here as it's long and kind of angsty. Okay, it's very angsty. On the Prufrock Reader Torture Scale, with zero being angst-free (there is no angst-free prufrock story as far as I know, at least none that I would recommend) and ten being "Negative Utopia" or maybe "The Wasteland," this rates at least a seven. It is neither season eight fic nor is it season nine, but William is there and so is Mulder so I am classifying it as season nine, AU, PG-13.

I have no idea why I like this story as much as I do, given that I hate babyfic and season nine, but prufrock writes a lovely, believable Mulder, negotiating his way through fatherhood under the worst possible circumstances, plus there's some mytharc thrown in for good measure.

You can't send the author feedback because she disabled her email address even before she quit writing fic. But you can let us know! Love it? Hate it? Even a one line review would gladden my heart. Leave suggestions for next time here as always. I promise we will get to them eventually.

On the eve of the demise of geocities, something amazing happened. Someone decided to try to save it all and move it to their own servers. Seriously. They are calling it "reocities." To see if a geocities site has been put back up by this wonderful, wacky person, just type in the old url, substituting an "r" for the "g" and voila, there it will be, maybe.

Courtesy of Reocities, here is "The 13th Sign".

I love the internet.

Date: 2009-10-07 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riddledfate.livejournal.com
prufrock writes a lovely, believable Mulder, negotiating his way through fatherhood under the worst possible circumstances, plus there's some mytharc thrown in for good measure.

I've loved all the stories by prufrock's love that I've read, but this one is my favorite because, just like you said up there, her Mulder is just so damn REAL. She shows us the kind of reactions that I'd expected from him after his 'resurrection', his doubts about his role in William's life, and also explores a lot of issues that were never explained in canon. I absolutely adore the scenes in the Mystic Pizza Hut too, and the banter, and the Mulder/William relationship, and the Scully angst, and... well, I didn't want to spoil people too much with this comment, but this story is just too good! I've read the whole thing 4 times already, and I always end up loving it a bit more ♥ Now let me go start my 5th ;)
Edited Date: 2009-10-07 12:08 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-10-07 12:19 am (UTC)
leucocrystal: (tv | x-files : quest)
From: [personal profile] leucocrystal
Heh, I've only read the story once, but I'll agree with you here. (Though I should add I think I've only read a couple of prufrock's other stories, and I'm a bit leery about reading more, though I'm not entirely sure why... I hear mixed things, I guess. I need to really want to read something if it's long, given how little fic-reading time I have these days.)

That said, I remember Mulder in this story as being heartbreaking, extremely relatable, recognizable (albeit, if this makes sense, clearly written by prufrock; some authors have a particular voice through a character), and the story itself made me take a pretty harsh look at S8. Not so much in terms of overall writing quality, but in terms of Mulder's character, his actions (and inaction), in ways that I'd never considered them before. Tough to read, but very interesting. Ultimately, it does something that will almost always win a fic over for me: it reminds me why I love Mulder so damn much. In this case, I think it does so most clearly by highlighting his balance of extreme cynicism and extreme hope, in spite of all circumstances and ridiculous odds.

AU seasons can either be entirely delightful and refreshing to read, or incredibly frustrating and alienating. It's going to sound like I don't like this story to say so (and I do, very much), but I somehow feel like this one kind of falls smack in the middle of those two tones.
Edited Date: 2009-10-07 12:20 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-10-07 12:36 am (UTC)
leucocrystal: (tv | x-files : msr)
From: [personal profile] leucocrystal
Yes, I know what you mean. It's funny how there are these varying degrees of AU; the extreme stuff, like actual other timelines going on (none of which I don't think I've ever taken the time to read, that's too dissociated from canon for my taste), and then things like this, that veer off but are still so recognizable.

Date: 2009-10-07 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riddledfate.livejournal.com
the story itself made me take a pretty harsh look at S8.
Same here! I had never considered some of the things that the author explored in this story, or imagine some of the plot lines that she added to canon, but it was quite an interesting way of looking at things. I totally get what you mean about being leery, too. I love reading long fics, but I've heard that one of her stories (I can't remember the name right now) is a bit difficult to read--not because it isn't good, but because of the theme of the story, and I still haven't been brave enough to take a look at it, lol.

Ultimately, it does something that will almost always win a fic over for me: it reminds me why I love Mulder so damn much. In this case, I think it does so most clearly by highlighting his balance of extreme cynicism and extreme hope, in spite of all circumstances and ridiculous odds.
You said it better than me, bb :)

Date: 2009-10-07 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riddledfate.livejournal.com
I haven't read "A Moment In The Sun" yet, but I did love "Paracelsus" more than I had expected (I'm not a big fan of historical AUs, but wow. It was really good). I also loved "Negative Utopia" and "Agunah", which are also a bit AU, but amazing stories nonetheless.

Her Mulder is my Mulder, and her Scully is my Scully and this is my show, this is The X-Files. Whenever I read this story, I remember why I love this fandom.
WORD.

Date: 2009-10-07 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com
I've only read Negative Utopia by prufrock's love in the past (although that has the (dubious?) honor of being the first fanfiction story I ever read evar, and is partially responsible for the fact that I'm still keeping going with this weird little hobby, close to ten years later. But I digress).

I'd avoided p_l's stories mostly because I have a fanfic-reading friend who is hugely into MSR and praised the MSR aspects so highly she kind of put me off. I don't dislike MSR per se but I'm not really much of a romantic, so I think stories that deal solely (or mostly) with the relationship have to be something pretty special in order to suck me in.

All that said, I just read the first part of The 13th Sign and really enjoyed it. I like the way p_l emphasizes their communication problems--I think too often fanfic writers make M & S too "close" and understanding of each other (if that makes any sense).

I really liked this exchange:

"The Church of the 13th Sign is led by a man named Michael Lee Milton. He
calls himself Ophiuchus," Agent Reyes explained, opening the file and
spreading its contents over the conference table.

"Ophiuchus. Oh-fee-U-kus," Mulder pronounced for her, "Is the 13th Sign. The
Sun actually passes through thirteen zodiac signs, though modern astrologers
only recognize twelve. The Earth has wobbled a little since 5th century
Babylon, so when we track the elliptic now, it touches Virgo twice, though we
only count it once, and never touches Aries at all. From November 30th to
December 17th, the Sun is in the house of Ophiuchus, the Serpent Bearer."

"Oh," she responded.


A really nice Mulder voice. I will definitely be going back to read the rest.

Date: 2009-10-07 02:05 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] amyhit.livejournal.com
i'm certainly going to read at least the first part, because i loved Negative Utopia, and found Paracelsus interesting, and because you've all been saying such good things about this fic. but has anyone else read the teaser line and thought it sounded like the epitome of shipper fic?

He saw no reason for life, death, sex, Armageddon, or emotional dysfunction
to stand in the way of true love.


hee! i'm hoping it's misleading. a teaser line that uses the words 'true love' is usually a way to get me to never read that fic ever.

Date: 2009-10-07 01:51 pm (UTC)
leucocrystal: (tv | x-files : spooky)
From: [personal profile] leucocrystal
That's exactly how I read it as well.

Date: 2009-10-07 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com
I thought the same thing. But I liked Part 1 and am going back to try to read Part 2 now (yay for quiet nights at work!).

Date: 2009-10-07 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sangria-lila.livejournal.com
I would love this story more if it weren't so sad.

Date: 2009-10-07 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sangria-lila.livejournal.com
Well, I have very good selective memory and I block out s8 and 9 and IWTB. I wouldn't mind sad if I thought that somehow it mattered in developing the characters, but too often I feel that the writers do angst for the sake of it.

When it comes to Scully having a baby, I just think anything less than a happy, healthy child with Mulder is just adding insult to injury. I want Scully to enjoy her life for once. God knows she deserves it.

Date: 2009-10-10 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sangria-lila.livejournal.com
Oh no, I love 13th Sign, but it just makes me so sad. Have you read Pru's Moment in the Sun yet?

Date: 2009-10-10 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sangria-lila.livejournal.com
We should read Iolokus, simply because it's a fandom classic and lots of people have things to say about it.

Yeah, I love the 13th Sign's writing, which is why I still read it.

Date: 2009-10-08 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estella-c.livejournal.com
I guess I'll reread this giant--my mantra is read twice, talk once--but I will go on record as saying that I have a big Prufrock's Love problem. It's the angst thing, I suppose. Yet every damn time I read her I remember how extremely good she is, and that prejudice is an ugly thing.

Certain of her works I will never read again, or rec. The Wasteland: my GOD. But I recall that I thought highly of The Thirteenth Sign, and so far I'm agreeing with myself. Also Negative Utopia; one of the great ones.

More at a later time, I hope. I must go and check something else Wendelah is making me read.

Date: 2009-10-21 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estella-c.livejournal.com
Yes, well, I finally finished The 13th Sign and I consider it a fine piece of work, one of my favorites of PL's, and really possessing as happy an ending as we're ever going to get from her. (It's obviously a valedictory story.)

I do think it's excessively long, and the Mulder voice--though as Wendy says extremely well-done--palls through its de facto egocentrism. There's a tendency in fanfic (also in other genre fiction but *particularly* in fanfic) to indulge the repeated expression of the inner life. Our canon is visual in nature; we hear the dialogue but we have to imagine the feelings, and our ficcers are more than eager to imagine them for us. It bothers me a bit, as I'm sure I've tediously said before. Prufrock's Love imagines Mulder with wit as well as pathos, and for that I'm grateful.

One thing surprised me. We assume that Scully's amnesia, with no actual hope of recovery, is tragic. I guess it is. But with my season one comfort-habit I actually reacted to it with pleasure. What a miracle for Mulder to start over with an innocent, unsuspicious, undamaged Scully. I exaggerate, of course; she's been robbed of a hunk of life and has to relive some tough losses. But she's presented with a baby to love and a fascinating man who's already in love with her. How bad can it be? Call me shallow. And it's a gift for Mulder; he no longer has to cope with a woman who is so afraid of "manipulating" him that she won't tell him what to do. (That bothered me. She should have told him to help her take care of his kid. Call me reactionary.)

Pascal's Wager is also excellent, as I recall.




New kid on the block

Date: 2009-10-25 06:40 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hello!
I just stumbled across this community and may be in love. I'm always searching for intelligent, well crafted, true to character/canon stories, and am becoming more and more familiar with the highly regarded authors in this fandom, but I'm sure I'm still ignorant to many great authors and stories. I'll be searching through all your past recommendations, and eagerly awaiting your new ones!

So really, I wanted to say thank you for existing. I've read many stories that moved me or spoke to me in some way over the years, but I've lost track of their titles and authors, and am hoping to find some old favorites here. I'm also hoping that this will turn into something of a 'best of' archive for me.

I'm wondering, does anyone have any 'must read' suggestions right off the bat?
My favorite author so far has been Penumbra, and her "Parabiosis" (although I'm partial to all her stories). So completely wonderful. I've gathered that work is a classic.

I know there are many stories I've yet to come across, because I didn't know where to look. All your suggestions will be a fabulous start!

Thanks, and happy reading,
-Kate

Way late to the game

Date: 2016-10-18 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com
I love this. I kind of hate this. I hate that I love it? No not really. I love PFs Mulder, obviously she loves him and thus so do I. Her mulder is less self absorbed and arrogant (a bit anyway) than the one I see on screen, but inarguably fantastic. Why oh why does everyone have to crap on Scully though? Seriously? And having read and listen bed Fugue I just can't quite buy that Scully minus all the years with Mulder would still BE Scully, or be sufficiently Scully to just go with it.
And I still love it.

RE: Re: Way late to the game

Date: 2016-10-24 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com
Hmm... well that is food for thought. Maybe I'm just mad at PL for erasing the Scully I know and love. I also don't quite buy that Mulder was immediately attracted to Scully at the beginning so maybe that colors my perception.
You know I've read so much fanfic now that I think I forget Mulder's heroic nature in canon somewhat. Being quite the Scullyist leaves me at times at odds with Ditch!Mulder and Secrets!Mulder so perhaps I read in more arrogance than is strictly there, or find those fics that relate that a bit more appealing.
I'll give this one a reread with your comments in mind and maybe with the sequel included sometime and see what I think. And I'll go back and read more Nascent fanfic. Because it's my fave!

RE: Re: Way late to the game

Date: 2016-10-24 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com
Hmmm thanks for that. I still haven't seen IWTB so I'm probably missing a few key characterizations but eventually I'll get there. Right after I force myself to finally watch all of season 7 and (gak) the final two seasons. Maybe. Maybe I should just skip them though? Anything worth watching in seasons 8 & 9 (or the end of season 7 for that matter)?

RE: Re: Way late to the game

Date: 2016-10-24 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com
Also, ugh! Geez autocorrect, so frustrating!

RE: Re: Way late to the game

Date: 2016-10-24 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com
And... where is the best place to find PLs fanfic?

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