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A few days ago, someone was talking about fic and the phrase "most famous fic in our fandom" came up. I'm not sure what story she had in mind but surely "Iolokus" has to be a contender for that title. I have seen it nominated by many people for the best fan fiction novel, not just in our own, but in any fandom. I have also seen people say they couldn't finish it because Mulder and Scully were too "out of character."
The misspelled monster that started it all. Although I'm told it promotes heteronormativity in the end, we were more going for polymorphic perversity; you'll have to judge for yourself.
Summary: Painted across the barren and desolate reaches of Texas, the shadows of the Project put additional pressure on Scully and Mulder's already fragile relationship. After a hostage crisis raises more questions about the Project's breeding program, Scully begins her own investigation, leaving Mulder to choose between saving her and saving himself. Finally, the investigation leads to tragedy and Mulder and Scully find that more questions have been asked than answered.
The title reference was to an island mentioned in Medea, to which we turned for fairly obvious reasons.
Warnings: extreme violence, including the death of children.
There are four long sections to this behemoth. My first time through this fic I hadn't much knowledge of canon, so I am curious to see what I think of it now. Thank you to
sangria_lila for this excellent nomination. If there is enthusiasm to continue, I suppose we can forge through to the end or just quit with book one. It's your call.
Please leave feedback for the authors and then come back and let us know what you think. Nominations for next time are made here. Since
rivkat's site is down at the moment, the link is to the wonderful Fugues Fiction Archive. Of course, the story is also available at Gossamer.
Iolokus
Edit: Since Rivkat's site is back up, here is another link to the story: Iolokus.
The misspelled monster that started it all. Although I'm told it promotes heteronormativity in the end, we were more going for polymorphic perversity; you'll have to judge for yourself.
Summary: Painted across the barren and desolate reaches of Texas, the shadows of the Project put additional pressure on Scully and Mulder's already fragile relationship. After a hostage crisis raises more questions about the Project's breeding program, Scully begins her own investigation, leaving Mulder to choose between saving her and saving himself. Finally, the investigation leads to tragedy and Mulder and Scully find that more questions have been asked than answered.
The title reference was to an island mentioned in Medea, to which we turned for fairly obvious reasons.
Warnings: extreme violence, including the death of children.
There are four long sections to this behemoth. My first time through this fic I hadn't much knowledge of canon, so I am curious to see what I think of it now. Thank you to
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Please leave feedback for the authors and then come back and let us know what you think. Nominations for next time are made here. Since
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Iolokus
Edit: Since Rivkat's site is back up, here is another link to the story: Iolokus.
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Date: 2009-10-25 09:33 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-10-25 07:03 pm (UTC)This link works very well for mwe. And the advantage is that you can get the fic in a neat and tidy PDF file. :)
And may I say WOOOHOOO! The person who nominated this is gonna be my new best friend. It is common knowledge that I absolutely worship Iolokus, that I have never read anything as outrageously superb and that no writer has IMO ever come close to matching the sheer sick genius of Mustang Sally and Rivka T. This is the fic that made me start writing.
I am not saying the story is perfect. There are many flaws to it. But there are so many moments of sheer genius that you forgive the stuff that could have been tweaked a little bit better.
I have a week off, so I'm going to go re-read this and I'll be back (MWAHAHAHA)
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Date: 2009-10-25 07:12 pm (UTC)There are a number of serious WTF moments for me, make no mistake. But it's long and that's just going to happen, you know? What captivates me about Iolokus is that the characters are so skewed and distorted in places, but I can still see them every time. This is Mulder and Scully given the gift of their (possible) emotions and reactions, rather than Mulder and Scully as week-to-week TV characters who need to keep things together.
I go back and forth sometimes, wondering whether the Emily arc or the William arc is more cruel to Scully. And there are times when I think it has to be Emily, because Scully had no choices anywhere along the line. And as a fellow control freak, I find that so, so horrifying.
Excellent choice all around,
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Date: 2009-10-25 10:13 pm (UTC)That is an excellent point. But I always assumed that Scully gave William up for adoption because she was forced to do so. She felt like she had no choice. I also assumed that losing a child you had known and loved passionately was worse than losing a child you had barely met, even though the circumstances of her death couldn't have been more horrifying. I believe that Scully could eventually become reconciled to the loss of Emily, the miracle that wasn't meant to be. I don't believe she could ever get over losing William.
After I have reread the story, I may ask for your take on the WTF moments.
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Date: 2009-10-26 02:42 am (UTC)And it's funny, I can easily pick out half-a-dozen things I really don't like about it (wrt to some of the above comments, there are plenty of places where I myself can't "see" the characters as Mulder and Scully (I have had a bunch of arguments with my dearest Phileish friend about it--she thinks the characterization is perfectly "them". We both love the story but for different reasons).
I love so much that it's so balls-to-the-wall, so unafraid and that it pulls out all the stops. It borders strongly on parody, but I think it's so well written and such a tearing good story that it's hard to be offended.
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Date: 2009-10-26 11:28 am (UTC)Yes to this. I should have been more clear and said I can see them every time I read the story - not in every given scene. Which sounds like hair-splitting, but hopefully you'll see what I mean.
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Date: 2009-10-27 03:22 am (UTC)Maybe I should hold off judgement after I've read the whole thing (if I can get there..) I'm maybe a fifth of the way into the first section, but it's getting harder and harder for me to continue reading.
I just don't see the characters anywhere in these characterizations. Here, they're both so angry and cold and malicious, taking pleasure in the ways they can hurt and use each other. That a partnership or a personal relationship could function or be maintained this way is ridiculous. Even the ways they think about each other, or remember the past, are either malevolent or emotionally barren. Huge chunks of Mulder are entirely absent - his kindness, his empathy, his humor, his respect for his partner. Even his respect for Skinner or his fondness of Frohike. Likewise, while Scully of course holds huge pieces of herself inside herself, the Iolokus characterization is entirely off the mark. She seems a shell of person, shallow and bitter... and I don't believe either of them would treat sex with one another so casually, or use it as a weapon against one another. I love Mulder and Scully, but I don't even like either of the characters in this story. They're needy, ugly, abused and abusive, and beyond dysfunctional.
Ok, I'm done, sorry for the rant... it may be hard for me to suspend my disbelief and continue reading this story, but I want to try. So far, I'm not seeing what all the fuss is about.
Thoughts?
-Kate
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Date: 2009-10-27 11:29 am (UTC)I remember reading this story for the first time (o long years ago) and, when I was part of the way through the Iolokus I, sending a long email to the friend who'd pressed it on me that was basically a very long-winded "why the HELL did you tell me to read this?". Her answer was simply "Keep going", IIRC. I did, and I was, and still am :), so glad. It's an amazing story, but it's not an easy one.
I still have big problems with the characterization in parts. There are parts of the story that work for me and others that really don't. Some things make me cringe, some make me flinch.
I think what makes it a good story for me (and bear in mind, plenty of people really dislike Iolokus, so don't feel like you're the only one not appreciating this high-and-mighty fandom classic, or anything) is that it *is* a struggle in places. It's huge and kind of messy and it has jagged points. It's bleak and upsetting and almost hopeless (something I find very hard to forgive in any story), but when it turns around, oh my, it'll shine the sun straight into the pieces of your heart it just broke, and you'll be begging for more.
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Date: 2009-10-27 08:44 pm (UTC)Aloysia is onto something important, I think, and that is the way Iolokus overturns the limp conventions of 90s series tv by approaching the story as if it *isn't happening to tv characters*. When people are duped, kidnapped, medically abused, subjected to trauma after trauma--well, they go a little nuts. There's plenty of fic to satisfy our need for heroism. This is a celebration of victimization.
With jokes. And an eventual happy ending, which I doubt spoils anyone.
Iolokus is great storytelling, too. We haven't gotten to the Multiple Mulders yet!
Nit: I didn't think there was an Emily autopsy.
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Date: 2009-10-31 09:18 am (UTC)Zippy's comments, the Mooselet of course, Catzilla...etc, this story is full of fun moments and witty repartee, some more subtle than others.
And the mutiple Mulders are a damn interesting concept, I agree. Then again, I always had a thing for clones. :)
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Date: 2009-10-30 12:07 pm (UTC)As I said above I don't think I can re-read the lot at the moment to comment more specifically, but I do remember being bothered in a nitpicky way by Scully coming off an SSRI (for perfectly legitimate reasons) and apparently feeling no 'withdrawal' (antidepressants don't cause genuine withdrawal, but in my experience dropping them quickly brings you pretty close to the DTs) or indeed any worsening of symptoms. But I may be remembering a little wrong, and as I said, minor nitpick.
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Date: 2009-10-30 01:12 pm (UTC)Can't (http://bipolar.about.com/cs/antidep/a/0207_ssridisc1.htm) they (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSRI_discontinuation_syndrome) ever.
I agree with you. SSRI discontinuation, even unmonitored, AMA, or abrupt SSRI discontinuation, does not lead to withdrawal in 100% of cases. But it's common enough that it's worth acknowledging.
Although … in 1998, were people who had no experience with SSRIs (I'm seriously assuming here) even aware that could happen? It's 2009, and most of the never-medicated people I run into have no idea.
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Date: 2009-10-30 11:24 pm (UTC)I remember someone once saying that Mulder sounded like a very feminist version of a man, and I agree. I think the Mulder here lacks the squidginess of heart and ineptness that he does onscreen. If you are squidgy and inept, you don't know you're squidgy and inept, and sometimes I think Mulder here is too self aware. But whatever. I love the writing. I love the Mooselet (I love that she's called the Mooselet), and she's exactly the kind of child you expect M&S to have. And M&S own descriptions of the Mooselet is hilarious.
I do take issue to how quickly Scully gave birth in Book 5, and to the fact that they named their twins Bram and Cordelia.
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Date: 2009-10-31 03:47 pm (UTC)I am not a canon loyalist. Fic writers can create whatever they want, provided they can get away with it. It takes talent. Iolokus is a ferocious display of raw talent.
Yes, the metaphors/similes are sometimes overdone. They can jostle each other. This, incidentally, is a view one can take of Penumbra's beautiful scenes and glittering images. Nevertheless, I love her stuff.
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Date: 2009-11-04 07:37 pm (UTC)Note: I actually like the babies' names a lot, which I understand many people don't. I mean, Bram, Cordelia, and Miranda are maybe a little matchy in that they're all from Shakespeare, but it's hardly Romeo, Juliet, and Ophelia or anything. I like sensibly named children.
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Date: 2009-11-04 09:49 pm (UTC)Where is Bram in Shakespeare?
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Date: 2009-11-28 03:50 am (UTC)I was offline while this discussion was going on, and when i came back it was all too MUCH for me to fling myself into after the fact so i snagged a bunch of everyone's comments into a word file and started, sort of, "disputing" with those comments - for my own edification, of course. now i want to post my thoughts, in my own journal, but i'm not very comfortable with doing that unless i can contact the people i'm quoting and disagreeing with and let them know i'm doing it. it seems unfair otherwise.
Kate, if you come back and see this, would you maybe drop me a line or something? or if anyone else knows anything about her - email address and whatnot? please and thank you. Sorry i can't post this somewhere else - somewhere more appropriate, but there isn't really anywhere else for it.
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Date: 2015-07-06 06:27 am (UTC)We've added to the lurker population but not the participants, alas.
Let me know what you think. I reread it--just the first section--on a long plane ride a few years back. It still held up for me.
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Date: 2015-10-19 02:22 pm (UTC)Re: Iolokus
Date: 2015-10-19 11:14 pm (UTC)Musings
Date: 2015-10-23 02:36 am (UTC)"We reversed the gender roles even more than they had been on the show with a highly masculinized Scully, and a rather effeminate Mulder. If you notice, Scully initiates all the violence, and Mulder initiates any attempt at emotional connection. It’s no wonder that in the first action scene she crawls through an air duct (vagina) with a rifle (penis) to shoot (penetrate) Bill who has taken the children hostage while Mulder tries to negotiate (nurture)....
In the matter of the various Mulder clones, we were playing with the meta idea that every writer has a different vision of Mulder – gay Mulder, homicidal maniac Mulder, tough Mulder, whore Mulder, and crazy Mulder. Hence the clones."
I hadn't noticed that there was symbolism in this story. I remember in high school English classes, I was frustrated by teachers who would ask questions such as "what does this tree represent?" I always thought 'maybe it's just a freakin' tree?' I was probably wrong, and I wonder how many other symbols with subtext are scattered throughout this particular story. Did anyone else find any?
Also, why do you think the authors had Scully sleep with Marita? Maybe to get close to Mulder in a different way? To try to see something from his perspective?
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Date: 2016-05-14 08:05 pm (UTC)I get where they're going with it. Really. And in a lot of ways, I appreciate what they're trying to do in letting Mulder and Scully actually experience the trauma of everything that's happened to them. I like seeing Scully having some agency, too, since so often it seems like she's just along for the ride, having bad things happen to her instead of being an active player in her own storyline.
That being said, I just can't get behind the characterization. So much of what makes Mulder and Scully good partners, lovers, and characters is that even when things are terrible, they draw upon each other's strengths to get them through, but Iolokus completely undermines that. It's as though all of their worst qualities have become their defining characteristics. Their mutual trust, respect, and friendship have been traded in for a miserable codependence and an angry desire to consume and hurt the other. And tastes of that - that would be understandable, given the circumstances, but their entire existences, both together and as individuals, have been squashed in favor of making them as bitter and spiteful as possible. They aren't themselves, but charicarures of rage meant to star in misery porn.
I really struggle with Mulder being characterized as a literal sociopath. Mulder, who on many occasions has bonded deeply with and wept for the people he encounters in his investigations. Mulder, who was handed the people who were responsible for Scully's abduction and the perfect opportunity to kill them, but decided not to because that wasn't who he was or wanted to be. Mulder is arrogant and often too caught up in his own world to truly be there for Scully, but a sociopath? Hardly.
And then there's Scully, who stands up for women and is by all means a compassionate individual suddenly taking sexual advantage of a prisoner... And Mulder, when he's intensely drugged and in no real position to be initiating a sexual relationship. These consent issues are not only treated flippantly in the story, but they're wildly out of character for Scully.
There are elements of the relationship dysfunction that are, deep down, pretty spot-on, but they're executed to such extremes that it seems at times as though Mulder and Scully are enemies. There's certainly legitimate despair between them - they both need something from the other that they probably won't ever fully get. But at the same time, there's genuine affection and warmth and respect, and there's no evidence of that here.
I'm all for flawed characters and messy relationships and spiraling downward in response to trauma, but there still has to be balance. Almost no one is their worst self 100% of the time, and those people certainly aren't out fighting in the name of what's right and good. Mulder and Scully are human beings, and snuffing out all of their light isn't a meaningful, or realistic, way to write them dealing with trauma. Mean, sarcastic quips don't count as lightening things up.
All in all, it just seems like deeply dysfunctional despair told in a million flowery metaphors and attempts at symbolism. In it's desire to show Mulder and Scully unraveling, it completely loses track of the basics of who these characters are. In attempting to create complicated, messed up characters, this story ironically just creates shallow, angry vessels who share little more than a name with Mulder and Scully. Iolokus is all heavy-handed bitterness and fire with no nuance.
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Date: 2016-05-15 03:31 am (UTC)It's been at least two years since I read "Iolokus" from beginning to end so I can't respond to every point you've made. I get why the characterizations didn't work for you--heck, they didn't work for a lot of people, even some people who love the fic. (Read through the comments for reader-responses from some of the fandom best-known writers.) The darn writers for the series couldn't keep them in character half the time. Describing "Iolokus" as "all heavy-handed bitterness and fire" without nuance is oversimplified, although I will grant the fic is purposefully short on subtlety. *g*
The fic was written out of anger, in reaction to events of the series through season five, in particular what was done to Scully. She's abducted by Duane Barry and Donnie Pfaster; she's given cancer; she's turned into a guinea pig by the Consortium doctors, who commit medical rape by stealing her ova and using them to make human/alien clones. But that wasn't enough for the writers: in Christmas Carol/Emily, Scully gets to discover that they've used her ova to make a very sick little girl, just so that Scully can suffer, suffer and suffer some more. I'm getting angry myself, just thinking about it. I can't imagine watching it unfold in real time. (I first watched the series in order in 2006-07 when the slimsets were released on DVD.)
This story is wildly ambitious, and to my mind, the writers mostly succeed at what they're attempting to do: they want to show us how angry and insane Mulder and Scully should be, given all that they've been put through by the damned writers. It's not comforting and it's not easy reading. That's a good thing, imho, given the issues they're dealing with. But--if you make it all the way to the end, to Syadiloh 1 and 2, we (and Mulder and Scully) get rewarded for our suffering, and that alone makes it worthwhile.
The complete Iolokus Series is now at AO3, as well as at Gossamer. I should edit the post to reflect that.
If you want me to add you to the community roster so that you can post unscreened, I'd be happy to do so. I have commenting set to screen non-members for spam prevention.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. It means a lot to know that people are still reading the fic and finding the community.