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There is still plenty left to say about "To Carthage Then I Came", and "Ceremony", too, for that matter.

First, I have a confession to make. I love stories with amnesia as a plot element. You could even call it a kink, I love them that much. No, I have no idea why this issue carries such a charge for me. Looking over the list of stories we've discussed here, there have been a disproportionate number with amnesia at the center of the storyline.

That's one of the reasons I dithered for so long about whether or not to post this here. For another thing, it is the second part of an unfinished WIP, which I suspect will never be completed, although never say never with XF fanfiction writers. But I think the second section, "Dreamcatcher," can be read as a standalone, especially if you start with the epilogue to "Tabula Rasa." After that, if you liked "Dreamcatcher," you might end up reading the entirety of "Tabula Rasa." I did. I read the sequel "Footsteps of Angels," too, until she stopped updating it in 2007. Yeah, it's totally a kink.

"Dreamcatcher" is also a variation of the Profiler!Mulder genre, except this Mulder isn't exactly our Mulder. Scully is definitely our Scully; of course, you'll have to make your own mind about that. The timeframe is "the present, but without the baggage of any episodes past Je Souhaite. They're still with the Bureau, Mulder does not have a fatal brain disease and Scully has no interest in artificial insemination. I live in denial. *g*" Me, too. So, 2003. AU.


Anyway, I will be the first to admit that these are not perfect stories, plus there is that unsolved mystery lurking in the background. I love unsolved mysteries, though. Maybe you do, too. Good, bad, or indifferent, I'd love to know what you think of "Dreamcatcher." The links are to the 2004 Spooky site, and to her website, since for some reason, this story never made it to Gossamer. Suggestions for next time can be made at the nomination post.

Epilogue to "Tabula Rasa," which she suggests be read before tackling "Dreamcatcher."

"Dreamcatcher" at Spookys 2004.

"Dreamcatcher" in textfile format at dtg's site. There is a prettier html version but the links go wonky after chapter 11, and though you can get to the rest, it's a hassle.

Have fun.

Date: 2010-06-15 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marionravenwood.livejournal.com
First, I have a confession to make. I love stories with amnesia as a plot element. You could even call it a kink, I love them that much.

Have you read "Possessions" by R.J. Anderson (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/364281/1/)?

Date: 2010-06-20 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estella-c.livejournal.com
Dreamcatcher is a solid, involving piece of work. As a shipper I find casefiles dull unless there is some form of relationship volatility. I was occasionally impatient reading this, but I wasn't bored.

Mulder and Scully are in a holding pattern here, with Mulder the amnesiac profiler cleared for government work but not ready to resume a love relationship he can't bring to mind. It should be awkward and it is, though maybe not awkward enough.

The problem with D is that it's a transitional piece that doesn't transition, and everyone knows it. I've never been a fan of the idea that a writer might give someone permission to conclude a WIP. In this case, however, the frustration factor may be high enough to inspire bribery.

The final chapter of this fic, in which Scully has an epiphany about Mulder's insecurities and ends up in bad with him explaining "feelings," may actually function as a resolution for many. Possibly it did for the writer, whatever she may have planned. It didn't work for me. The anger and epiphany and panic moods jostled each other, and it all seemed to devolve into a lot of words about talk. If that isn't too opaque.

One other problem is our murderer, who though a satisfyingly hateable character was really underexplained. Daddy issues? A dreamcatcher fixation? Female serial killers are so rare in life that they take a lot of selling. There are several in X-File ficdom--at least one other created by dtg. Maybe it's an idea that fascinates a largely female fan base.

Re: Response part two

Date: 2010-06-23 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estella-c.livejournal.com
When I wrote "in bad" I really meant "in bed." But you probably know that.

I persist in thinking that The X-Files flew as it did because it was *really* about relationship. And I like fics that are about the Ship, but that doesn't mean I prefer "pure romance." The very phrase makes me feel clammy. Relationship is a big term, an umbrella term, and that's (for me) what the R in MSR stands for. No one ever explained the acronym to me, so I did it all my own self.

You know this too. Anyhow, I'm off topic.

Fact is, I forgot the possession explanation, which indicates it didn't ring true to me. It didn't show up in Michael's personality or in the writing style.

Also forgot "The Footsteps of Angels." Probably should have checked on that.

apparently also having a kink for amnesia plots

Date: 2016-06-07 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com
Ok so I started with the epilogue to Tabula Rasa and got so sucked in I had to read the entire thing. TOTALLY. SUCKED. IN. Perturbing and mytharch-ish with subtlety to relationship and emotion. Ahhh... Hoping Dreamcatcher is as interesting and disturbingly satisfying. I'm assuming you have read Fugue by Rivkat? It's somehow reminiscent of this, or rather this of that since Fugue was written earlier. I like this post Je Souhaite AU more than CC's canon, disturbing as it is.

I'll get back on here after reading D!
From: [identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com
wow, YOU are the reason she wrote Devoutly to be wished??? OMG thank you! I read Fugue back in the day and was SO disturbed, seriously, that I haven't been able to bring myself to read it in its entirety again to this day.

I HAVE read the new resolution piece you asked for, as well as the alternative version where Mulder never regains his self, but Scully does (which of course suits me better since I'm a ridiculously devoted Scullyist despite never being an official member of the OBSSE back in the day). *Whew* How cool that you were the reason she wrote that??

ARGH! CLIFFHANGER!

Date: 2016-06-08 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com
I read and enjoyed Dreamcatcher quite a lot. The casefile, the M/S interactions, the amnesia, all of that works for me. It felt like the case itself was wrapped up a bit abruptly for my taste. I couldn't quite buy or perhaps even follow the author's underlying reasoning for Michael's serial killings and how they connected to those from Grotesque, BUT... overall I enjoyed the whole thing so much that this was fairly minor. Went on to read the available chapters of In The Footsteps Of Angels and now of course I'm in pain since there is no conclusion in sight. The author left a note on her website from 2013 claiming she was going to finish it, but nothing. Any chance she finished it and its archived elsewhere???

Re: ARGH! CLIFFHANGER!

Date: 2016-06-09 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com
That was one helluva cliffhanger, and I see how you could think about it for months afterwards. I have theories, and then theories of theories. And I'm not at all sure I like the psychiatrist. Maybe. ARGH! I want to see what she would have come up with, but I too am a little afraid. Maybe if many of us wrote to her it would be an encouraging nudge??

Not sure that the symbolism of the dreamcatcher worked for me. Its a bit too appropriated, people love to just say that something is "Native American" without specifying culture of origin (hello? over 550 current existing Native nations here in this country?), and I still found it too much of a stretch. BUT... It was definitely atmospheric and scary, I loved the cracking ice/last minute rescue part, and (sucker that I am) I totally got into the flashback connection Mulder was having to Antarctica while they lay there on the ice at the end too.

I'd love an opinion on this, was there some kind of psychic connection thing going on in there at any point? It seemed like there was quite a bit of responding verbally to what the other was thinking, although I think maybe it was mostly Mulder responding to Scully's thoughts, buy maybe a little the other way round as well. Was that just my confusion?

Re: ARGH! CLIFFHANGER!

Date: 2016-06-14 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com
Hmmm... I don't think I realized they were sleeping together at the end of Dreamcatcher. How did I miss that?

Date: 2016-11-13 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com
Ok one more reading and something else popped out at me. The lake that was next to Michael's cabin was called Iktomi lake. The lake that fissured and dropped her through the ice, sending a web of cracks that nearly killed M & S. So that was certainly an interesting choice of names, because Iktomi means spider in Lakota, and is also the name of Spider, the archetypal trickster (who is NOT a heroic figure but more of a troublemaker and a lesson in bad behavior and consequences). The author has sadly conflated Dine (Navajo) traditions with Ojibwe in the case of dream catchers, and has added her own twist to it (the spirit that can embody those dreams). Often word searches online don't credit language of origin for various indigenous our words (just calling them "Indian") so I'm wondering if this is where the author got the name for Iktomi lake, and if she wanted specific implications... damn I so wish she had completed the final story of the trilogy!!! Thinking back to Tabulate Rasa Scully had a nightmare that same first night when Mulder had his awful nightmare. Perhaps hers was about what happened during those missing couple of days rather than her original abduction? Geez I need more people to spin wheels with me...

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