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I'm still going back through the older comments at the nomination post. Way back when, someone nominated "Syncopation" by Lilla Vaughan, which I wasn't that crazy about to be frank. I don't remember why. But then I remembered she'd written this fic, which I do like a lot.

In her summary Nanda writes, "I think the title speaks for itself. Oh, and there are rocks falling from the sky, too."

The link is to AO3 but this fic can also be read at Gossamer.

Read Your Platonic Relationship: An Owner's Manual

Part 1/2

Date: 2014-08-27 10:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] amyhit.livejournal.com
I've always found this fic really interesting, and several times thought about reading it here at the book_club, so I'm glad it's on the block now. I feel like this is the kind of fic that appears different every way you turn it, if that makes any sense.

META?

First of all, Your Platonic Relationship has always struck me as having a subtle but pervasive meta dynamic to it. It comes across like a light, humorous amalgamation of about a thousand different MSR-centric casefics. This fic is the mean, the loose depiction of how the average Mulder/Scully shipper writes about, and/or reads about, and/or thinks about the Mulder/Scully dynamic. That's not to say MSR as it's depicted in YPR is the headcanon of any one person (perhaps not even Vaughan herself) - but it does a great job of sketching together a core group of tropes that are recognizably "MSR through a fandom lense."

MARY SUE?

I also find Scully's characterization in YPR really interesting. Am I the only one who finds her Mary Sue-ish in this fic? Where that Mary Sue-ishness is coming from is hard to pinpoint, but I think it's mainly in how this Scully relates to this Mulder: He's Mulder and she's the smart, long-suffering best friend who's crushing hard.

I think that there's a relatability and a sort of normality to how their relationship is depicted that makes it Mary Sue-ish. It has that High School Romance Fantasy vibe to it, which is certainly another one of this fic's numerous facets.

But at the same time as Scully feels Mary Sue-ish from one angle, she's distinctly herself from another. It's Scully and not a Mary Sue that's in the airport at 9 AM, it's Scully that reads case notes during the flight, it's Scully that asks for orange juice with her pretzels, and who checks the weather reports for tornadoes, and who "always gets carried away at salad bars ," and who gets on with the autopsy while Mulder skips out in order to pursue his own theory.

Scully gets the Mary Sue treatment when it comes to her feelings towards Mulder, but not when it comes to work or life in general. And the shift between the two modes of characterization is consistent enough to make me wonder whether it was deliberate.

MULDER: KINDA THE BEST PART

Mulder, by contrast, feels quite in character throughout - I mean apart from the bit where he calls Scully after nightmares (and there's that High School Romance Fantasy aspect showing up again). My favorite parts of this fic are mostly Mulder parts, for that reason. His dialogue, in particular, is spot on.

- “I thought you were finally making a pass at me, Scully.”

- “This ain’t no styrofoam, Scully.”


- Faded jeans and a Taco Bell t-shirt.

- The whole 'showing up in Scully's motel room fully dressed in the middle of the night to talk about falling dirt' scene. Plus, "Come on, get dressed."

HOTNESS

Another thing I find interesting about this fic is that as funny and deliberately silly as it is, it also manages to be genuinely kinda hot. It was definitely a bit hit-and-miss on that front. For example, "I have a fire burning and damn, I wish you were here” is, IMO, utter cheese, and a complete miss. But then again:

- "He will laugh and touch the small of your back as he opens the passenger door of the rented beige Taurus for you. He is the only person who ever touches you there."

- "You will be able to tell how recently your best friend has been in your room by the scent of his cologne."

- "Fall asleep to the murmur of his television through the wall."

- "Light will tumble from his room into yours."


Because I enjoy subtlety, and because I'm all about finding eroticism in things that aren't inherently sexual, I like the last two examples best. But they're all hot, IMO, which is kind of cool because not one is more than PG, content-wise. And I think that goes back to the fic's meta aspect: In a sense, this fic is actually more provocative than the sum of its parts, because it's evocative of other, racier fics. I guess you could say it harnesses the power of fanon.
Edited Date: 2014-08-27 10:39 pm (UTC)

Re: Part 1/2

Date: 2014-08-31 03:25 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] amyhit.livejournal.com
I think the thing about Mary Sues is that nobody can really agree on what one is or isn't. My own loose definition is "A character who, due to how they are depicted, feels like a stand in for either the author, or for the hypothetical reader." I don't have any set-in-stone qualifications beyond that.

You asked me if I thought YPR's Scully was a stand-in for the author, and I'm gonna have to say yes, or perhaps a stand-in for the hypothetical reader. That wasn't ALL she was, but there was just waaaay too much "Character who women can easily identify with and live vicariously through" about her for her to not feel like some kind of a stand-in. Like I said, this fic turns her into the smart, long-suffering best friend who's crushing hard. Like Taylor Swift in that one song, or Bridget Jones with an edge.

My idea of a Scully Mary Sue is the completely OOC Scully in "Where There's a Will." The Scully who fake marries Mulder and happily turns herself into a stay-at-home Mom/Stepford wife in order to adopt two children. That's a Mary Sue Scully. Or the Scully in "Worth Breaking" who starts having "meaningless" sex with Mulder because he wants to and she can't say no. This Scully then spends the next 700K alternating between whining to her therapist about how terrible it is to be having sex with Mulder and screwing his brains out. WTF? That's a Mary Sue Scully for sure.

I actually haven't read either of these fics, but Scully certainly does sound Mary Sue-ish in both of them. I guess the difference between us is that you seem to think in terms of "Mary Sue or Not Mary Sue?" whereas I only think in terms of "How Mary Sue-ish is this character?" The examples you gave of her being a Mary Sue were, as you said "completely OOC," whereas I do not have that requirement. In fact, I find her Mary Sue-ishness in YPR all the more obvious because it's contrasted by parts of the fic where she's actually quite in character and not Mary Sue-ish (which I did mention, in my previous comment. Just sayin').

Mary Sues have no sense of irony whatsoever.

I disagree that this is a fundamental principal of Mary Sues. In fact, I think that if a character seems canonically unaware or unconcerned with how absurd her life is, then it can be Mary Sue-ish for that character to be written as aware and/or concerned about it. Because in that case, instead of exploring why the character isn't more aware or concerned, the writer is simply making the character more like herself and the audience, who are aware of the absurdity.

However, it's a bit of a moot point in Scully's case, as canonical Scully seems fairly aware of how absurd her life is.
Edited Date: 2014-08-31 03:26 am (UTC)

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