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xf_book_clubOne of the things that impresses me about this story, is the intensity of the (albeit short) sex scene. It's amazing what an author can do with a few choice pieces of dialogue in the right setting. If you're a Krycek/Mulder fan, and hell even if you're not, you'll find this story very appealing.
~Bright Shiny Objects
I'm not so sure about that, but we shall see.
One of the fascinating things to me about fandom is how we're not all watching the same show.
Let's try again, shall we?
While we may all be playing the same DVDs (known hereafter as The X-Files), we can have completely different reactions to the same episode. For example, I think "Paper Hearts" is one of the worst episodes of the series but a good friend believes it's the best, and we can both make convincing arguments for our respective positions. Fans can make completely opposite interpretations of what it meant when Mulder told Scully that he even made his parents call him "Mulder." What hooks us into the show (and then the fandom) isn't always the same thing either. For some fans, The X-Files is about Mulder and Scully, two heroic FBI agents who investigate the inexplicable and fight the forces of evil. For others, it's a show about Mulder and Scully, two gorgeous and sexy FBI agents who fall in love, and okay yeah, so they solve crimes sometimes, too. And for some fans of the series, the most important or at least the most fascinating thing about The X-Files is the character of Alex Krycek.
Someone posted to the Confessions from the Basement tumblr that they "wished this fandom wasn't so militantly anti-slash." I can't speak for everyone else, but I'm not anti-slash. I read slash, although less in this fandom than most. Although you've probably already read it, here you go, anonymouse from tumblr, have some great Mulder/Krycek slash.
Read "Let's Play House."
Love it or hate it, please let us know what you think. And please, especially if you want to read more slash, leave us some suggestions in the nomination post for next time.
~Bright Shiny Objects
I'm not so sure about that, but we shall see.
Let's try again, shall we?
While we may all be playing the same DVDs (known hereafter as The X-Files), we can have completely different reactions to the same episode. For example, I think "Paper Hearts" is one of the worst episodes of the series but a good friend believes it's the best, and we can both make convincing arguments for our respective positions. Fans can make completely opposite interpretations of what it meant when Mulder told Scully that he even made his parents call him "Mulder." What hooks us into the show (and then the fandom) isn't always the same thing either. For some fans, The X-Files is about Mulder and Scully, two heroic FBI agents who investigate the inexplicable and fight the forces of evil. For others, it's a show about Mulder and Scully, two gorgeous and sexy FBI agents who fall in love, and okay yeah, so they solve crimes sometimes, too. And for some fans of the series, the most important or at least the most fascinating thing about The X-Files is the character of Alex Krycek.
Someone posted to the Confessions from the Basement tumblr that they "wished this fandom wasn't so militantly anti-slash." I can't speak for everyone else, but I'm not anti-slash. I read slash, although less in this fandom than most. Although you've probably already read it, here you go, anonymouse from tumblr, have some great Mulder/Krycek slash.
Read "Let's Play House."
Love it or hate it, please let us know what you think. And please, especially if you want to read more slash, leave us some suggestions in the nomination post for next time.
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Date: 2012-06-03 06:41 am (UTC)Gen only because no other discussion is allowed?
There are, however, possibilities. Like the look Krycek gives Mulder after handing him the car keys and knowing Mulder will find cigarette butts in the car's ashtray or the "stupis-ass haircut" comment or The Kiss or... well, you get the picture. Interesting little points of divergence, of roads not taken by the show overtly.
I assume there are au stories written that take off from those points and tease out their possibilities.
Carter made Mulder and Scully a pair on the show, killing such a wonderful friendship/UST/whatever you see *here follows a rant on how I've always liked M & S better as friends etc.* Unforgivable really.
I liked the UST better. I think the RST ruined the show. But it's a canon ship. I just don't like how they ended things in IWTB at all.
Too much angst and Mulder being a sadist. I don't really like seeing Krycek being beaten in fics. I reckon he's had enough of this kind of treatment on the show, so when it comes to fan fiction, I like to see him at least fight back. Or, well, being the "top" as it were since we're talking about slash.
Sorry you didn't care for the story. Yes, Krycek did get beaten on a lot by Mulder in canon, so I can see why a Krycek fan might get tired of that in fic.
Have I mentioned I've also got equality kink?
What is an equality kink?
Also, I like how it isn't about love. Mulder definitely doesn't love Krycek and I don't think Krycek loves Mulder despite him saying so. It's like he says it just to see what Mulder would do - he predicts a beating, gets it and grins that he can also get some sex out of it. It's like a twisted version of his usual screwing with Mulder.
You put that very well. I like that it isn't about love, too. I agree that Krycek doesn't love Mulder in this story: I thought he was just messing with Mulder's head, which seemed in character.
What are your favorite
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Date: 2012-06-04 12:41 am (UTC)No, I think it's more because no one is really interested in discussing romance, be it het or slash. We do discuss the episodes, plans for further movies, TXF actors other work, and the relationships in the series are just not a point of inerest. Though I do think some time ago there was a thread about a prefect partner/woman for Mulder. I should've just answered with Krycek and watch the resulting disbelief/schock and general unpleasantness emerge *trololol*. Oh well...
I liked the UST better. I think the RST ruined the show. But it's a canon ship. I just don't like how they ended things in IWTB at all.
You and me both. It's annoying that every man/woman partnership on screen eventually ends up as romance. "Dempsey & Makepeace", "Moonlighting", TXF - all went downhill after TPTB decided that they gust have to put the two protagonists in bed together.
You know, it's actually interesting. If Alex Krycek character were a woman on the show, say, Alexandra, there would be no question that the tension between her and Mulder was also sexual in nature. The fans would argue that there's this huge moral dilemma for Mulder: whom to choose etc. I bet the Mulder/Scully part of the fandom would be pretty much equal in numbers to Mulder/Alexandra part of the fandom.
Yes, Krycek did get beaten on a lot by Mulder in canon, so I can see why a Krycek fan might get tired of that in fic.
I think I just like Krycek more than Scully or Mulder because I don't trust people like Scully in real life and I don't like how Mulder allows his emotions take over his mind on occasions. And Krycek is at least honest in his self-serving attitude to life, though that's not really always the case either. He saved Mulder's life at least once. True, he sacrificed his "business partner" to do that, but hey, you can't have everything. Also, one of the jobs my presonality type apparently has a talent for - according to a semi-professional website - is assassin. I feel a sort of kinship with Krycek :) .
What is an equality kink?
I just like equality, e.g. if Mulder beats up Krycek I like seeing Krycek kick Mulder's arse as well. The "kink" is there just for a laugh :)
My favourite stories? I guess "How to Throw a Curve Ball" by Courtney Gray and "The Gift of an Enemy" by Sylvia - calssics really. (BTW, the community apparently doesn't allow links in comments and marks them as spam *sigh*).
Recently though I remembered I used to like David S's fics. Re-read them again and yep, they're still great. In fact I think I'll head down to add them to the nomination post.
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Date: 2012-06-04 11:06 am (UTC)(frozen) no subject
Date: 2012-06-04 05:53 pm (UTC)No, absolutely not. Heroes don't beat up on women. Mulder is a hero. Changing Alex to Alexandra would change the dynamic between the two characters completely.
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Date: 2012-06-04 10:40 pm (UTC)Hm, maybe he wouldn't beat her up and if he tried, she would - I don't know - kung fu him into the next week? Could be interesting.
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Date: 2012-06-04 05:43 pm (UTC)You know, it's actually interesting. If Alex Krycek character were a woman on the show, say, Alexandra, there would be no question that the tension between her and Mulder was also sexual in nature. The fans would argue that there's this huge moral dilemma for Mulder: whom to choose etc. I bet the Mulder/Scully part of the fandom would be pretty much equal in numbers to Mulder/Alexandra part of the fandom.
I disagree. What would be the moral dilemma? The mere existence of sexual attraction between two characters hardly implies it would progress to actual sex, let alone love. Assuming in this mythical universe Alexandra still betrayed Mulder's trust, still killed the tram operator, did everything in her power to prevent Mulder from rescuing Scully, and killed Mulder's father, why would Mulder be any more likely to forgive Alexandra than Alex? If anything he would be less forgiving. Moreover, I think if Krycek were a woman, she would be despised by the het end of the fandom as a rival to Scully for Mulder's affections, just as Diana, Marita and every other woman Mulder looked twice at were. The slash fans would all be pushed to pairing Mulder with Skinner.
Anyway, I don't see why Mulder would have to choose any character for a sex partner. Noromos get no love.
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Date: 2012-06-04 10:13 pm (UTC)(frozen) no subject
Date: 2012-06-04 11:00 pm (UTC)And whoa, wait a second. There's no evidence Krycek killed the tram operator nor that he killed Mulder's father. In fact, the latter is really unclear if you look at the episode. I mean, why would Krycek loiter around the house in which he'd just committed a murder. It doesn't make sense - he's supposed to be a professional.
And Mulder wouldn't be more likely to forgive female Alex than male Alex - and that's the dilemma. There's an attraction, but the person Mulder would feel it to, makes said attraction unacceptable.
Huh, so het fandom is so dogmatic? Who would've thought.
The slash fans would all be pushed to pairing Mulder with Skinner.
I wonder if the Lone Gunmen pairings would be more popular then. I've just traumatised you, haven't I?
Anyway, I don't see why Mulder would have to choose any character for a sex partner. Noromos get no love.
True. He did so in canon, though. And for that I could gladly kick Carter's arse.
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Date: 2012-06-05 11:19 am (UTC)He did regret the killing of Melissa Scully, but that's just because it wasn't Dana Scully who got killed. But he had such a sad, sorry look.
W hates Krycek, but I think those of us who don't are reacting as much to Lea's acting as we are the hamhanded scripts he was often stuck with.
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Date: 2012-06-05 11:26 am (UTC)It's possible Mulder would sleep with any/all of the Gunmen in a casual way, though Byer's uptightness would be some sort of inhibiting factor. I don't see him falling in love with any of them. It also might be, and more probably, that Mulder would avoid sexual contact there for the same reason he put it out of bounds with Scully during most of the show. He has few people he can trust and work with. Why take the risk of complication and/or loss?
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Date: 2012-06-05 06:48 pm (UTC)He totally did. I mean, what was that? after Bill Mulder's shooting, instead of hightiling it out of there (which would be a normal reaction after killing someone, regardless if Krycek was already a professional assassin or a novice) he creeps around the house's corners, looking for Mulder. WTF?
He did regret the killing of Melissa Scully, but that's just because it wasn't Dana Scully who got killed. But he had such a sad, sorry look.
LOL. That look was a start of many a fic where Krycek and Melissa were a couple.
As to the Lone Gunmen,
...Mulder would avoid sexual contact there for the same reason he put it out of bounds with Scully during most of the show.
See, that's exactly what I think as well. LG are Mulder's friends, why put romance into it? I was just idly wondering what would happen to slash fics in the absence of male Krycek.
But since we're on the subject of the Lone Gunmen slash, I'd love to read some Byers/Krycek fics. Such an underappreciated pairing (there are, like, 4 fics on the 'net) and I think the dynamic would be quite interesting there. As would be the possible cosequences: Mulder's reaction etc.