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This story is told from Tooms's POV and it's just as creepy as that suggests. Elanor G is better known for her well-plotted casefiles, and they are excellent too, but this story is darkly original. The author rates it R but I would give it no more than a PG-13 for violence.

Please send the author some feedback and then let us know what you think.

Read "Undying".

Date: 2012-09-29 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bardsmaid.livejournal.com
Really nicely done! And I like the tie-in about Scully's immortality at the end. Thanks for picking this.

Date: 2012-09-29 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mogster495.livejournal.com
They never really developed the Tooms character in the series, and somehow he is a huge part of XF lore. I like stories that explore previously unexplored avenues. I particularly liked the part where he was laughing at Nosferatu. It makes sense that he would find the consumption of blood weak and trivial compared to his hunger for livers.
Not sure about Scully being undying though. I've always thought Clyde Bruckman was referring to her not dying of cancer. I never been a fan of Tithonus, I just thought the writers were being lazy with that one.

Date: 2012-09-29 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badforthefish.livejournal.com
See, I loved Tithonus, I thought it was a very creepy tale , and I think Scully's 'death' is one of the most potent scene I've seen on the show. I mean you can see the life fading from her frikkin' eyes! How does an actor do that???

This said I agree that the ending smacked of lazy writing and I agree with your Clyde Bruckman's theory. That he would mean she survives her cancer makes sense.

But I'm glad this "Scully is immortal" trope exists, because if it hadn't, Penumbra wouldn't have written Fathoms Five, which is amazing stuff.
Edited Date: 2012-09-29 11:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-29 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mogster495.livejournal.com
I love Penumbra but I hated disliked Fathoms Five. Scully would never even attempt to kill herself, she is Catholic and we just don't do that. Even if you are not officially apart of the faith, once you have been a Catholic you never consider it (suicide).

Date: 2012-09-29 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badforthefish.livejournal.com
Are you telling me that no Catholic has ever committed suicide? If this were the case there wouldn't all those issue of being buried in unconsecrated ground.

I know Scully's attempt to kill herself is one of the most controversial point of this story.

I myself find it plausible that Scully would not want to live forever, that the burden of eternal life would be too much for her to bear.

However, I have a hard time buying that she would try to off herself while young. But at the same time it looks like she's experimenting - what a bullet through the head will do to her. She hopes she's going to die but deep down she *knows* she's not going to.

Date: 2012-09-30 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mogster495.livejournal.com
You're right, I'm sure lots of Catholics off themselves. I just didn't buy that from Scully. She is not the type to let her emotions overwhelm her.
Lol, Penumbra is so awesome we talk about her work in other writer's threads.

Date: 2012-10-02 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badforthefish.livejournal.com
I know right? *laugh*

Yes, I agree, Scully would bite the bullet (AH!) and not let her emotions get the better of her. But that scene was so wonderfully written that I can suspend my disbelief just for the amazing experience it was to read it.

Date: 2012-10-03 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estella-c.livejournal.com
So agreed! Fathoms Five isn't easy to take, but it's one of ficdom's authentic tragedies. I'd add The Other Man by Jess and Fata Morgana by Julie Fortune. I'll bet Wendy could think of others, but there aren't many.

Date: 2012-10-04 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mogster495.livejournal.com
The Other Man really knocked me for a loop. I thought I saw where it was going and then WHAM! I think I laughed a little at the end.
I haven't read the other one you mentioned.

Date: 2012-09-29 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badforthefish.livejournal.com
Eeep, I'm still reading "Fish for Fallen Light"!

Image (http://badforthefish.livejournal.com/pics/catalog/494/35946)

Edited to add: oh well this was short so, I read it anyway. It was an interesting piece. It's not often that you get to see the POV of the monster. Tooms laughing his head off at the cinema was a great scene - love his comment about blood being too thin, how creepy! And I liked the way the story travelled through times with the different characters. I thought that "his thoughts are long and slow" was a clever way to describe his 'otherness'. I liked that the old detective was used as one of the character.

One nitpick though. Are we supposed to think that the cross in the last piece belongs to Scully? Because the necklace Tooms got off Scully was not a cross. It was some roundish trinket.

This would make a good Halloween story. Nice and creepy.
Edited Date: 2012-09-29 10:59 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-30 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mogster495.livejournal.com
I caught that too. I wish it was the cross though, would have been cooler.

Date: 2012-10-01 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com
Yes good. I liked that we got a little more about Frank Briggs, who I always thought was an interesting character.

I think that the cross and crucifix were meant to be symbolic? Also given that he mentions the vampire movie. They're symbols that ward or kill vampires. The wooden crucifix was something he took at the beginning of his life, and the gold cross at the end (of course I have to disregard the fact, like [livejournal.com profile] badforthefish said, that he didn't actually take her cross necklace, but another one (I suspect the cross necklace didn't have a long enough chain for him to plot-point it from around her neck without her noticing, or they would have used it)).

Date: 2012-10-02 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badforthefish.livejournal.com
Was Scully even wearing that golden cross this early in the season?

Date: 2012-10-02 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com
Yep, she wore it in the pilot and in Deep Throat.

Image

Edited Date: 2012-10-02 11:33 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-04 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badforthefish.livejournal.com
Oooh, well remembered. *claps* Awww, baby Scully.

Date: 2016-08-07 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com
Awwww! And she looks badass there

Date: 2016-08-14 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com
Right?? So young, so angry :)

Date: 2012-10-03 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estella-c.livejournal.com
You give them too much credit. I'll bet it never occurred to them.

Date: 2012-10-03 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estella-c.livejournal.com
So sorry. This is in response to Infinitlight's first comment.

Date: 2012-10-04 12:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com
It was in the right place!

Date: 2012-10-03 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estella-c.livejournal.com
I liked this story, though "liked" is as far as I can go. It's fairly original by X-fic standards, but not by horror standards.

Specific things that I liked. It's well-crafted. Frank Briggs. The ambiguous perceptions of Scully and Mulder at the end. It might have been a reference to S's immortality, but M is mentioned too. Maybe it's that "shining" of hers, the sensing of the weird that made up to a minor extent for the way the writers kept her away from actual supernatural events during the first seasons. They should have done more with it. Shoulda, coulda, woulda. Sometimes it occurs to me that we're discussing ancient history. Not Roman Empire ancient, but still...

Date: 2012-10-04 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com
I always thought they were going to do more with Scully's intuition-thing. But then, I always thought they had an amazing Samantha story up their sleeves too, and we saw how that turned out.

Date: 2012-10-04 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badforthefish.livejournal.com
The way they messed up so many potentialy awesome storylines is staggering. The Samantha arc being one of many. Which is why when people say CC is writing for X-F3, I want to shout: "For Christ sake man, yes you created those characters but you suck at plot writing. Give the job to someone more talented, call Ridley Scott or Joss Whedon, or call back Vince Gilligan or Morgan and Wong. Chris, face it, you're a crap story writer!!!"

Rant over.

Aaah, that's better. *g*

Date: 2012-10-04 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littlegreen42.livejournal.com
"For Christ sake man, yes you created those characters but you suck at plot writing. Give the job to someone more talented, call Ridley Scott or Joss Whedon, or call back Vince Gilligan or Morgan and Wong. Chris, face it, you're a crap story writer!!!"

This is basically how I feel, too. In fact, the whole idea of XF3 makes me really nervous.

Date: 2012-10-06 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mogster495.livejournal.com
I though, that it they didn't make a movie, they should do a TV special. Vince Gilligan could write that so CC wouldn't mess it up. That would be boss.

Date: 2012-10-04 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badforthefish.livejournal.com
Oh, that's true! I'd forgotten about the "Scully is psychic" elements that keep popping up on the show.

It's been what 18 years? Good grief! Okay, now I'm picturing Mulder in a toga...*headesk*

Date: 2016-08-07 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bmerb.livejournal.com
OMG laughed out loud at that. WHERE did that come from?? šŸ˜‚

Also, I really enjoyed this fix for multiple reasons. It's so other, deliciously so.

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